[BAMF]

Do you find yourself spending a considerable amount of time imagining how things would play out in a survivalist situation?
Call it a zombie plan if you will. I know I have since that old episode of Red Vs Blue.

It's an interesting scenario, we as humans are so far removed from the struggle for survival.
So how would we cope should we suddenly find ourselves thrown into it?

I believe most people would find a strength they never knew they had.
Still I categorise my friends and family as "need to rescue" and "not really worth it".

Realistically, as much as you want your loved ones safe, going out and rescuing them puts you in jeopardy. And you can't keep everyone in one location. Sure you could find a large enough place to accomodate them all, say a hotel.
Put that's just going to attract the zombies.
Then again, there's strength in numbers.
All things to consider.

Still, should the opportunity present itself, here's how these categories work:

The "not really worth its" are those who are nice enough people but you aren't that attached to them.
Sad to see them be eaten by zombies, but not really worth the danger of getting yourself infected to protect them either.

Amongst the "need to rescues" there is the "protectors" and the "protected".
Basically people you know who can fight/ know neccesary survival skills and those who don't.

Speaking of fighting, if horror movies have taught me anything it's that everything can be used as a weapon.
But they all have their pros and cons.
Around here I could use a groovy chainsaw. However they are heavy and therefore difficult to wield, not to mention loud.
Which dimishes all your stealth as well as you ability to know what's sneaking up behind you.

I don't have much in the way of projectile weapons, unless I set the nerf gun bullets on fire. Actually that would be pretty freaking sweet.
But there are plenty of garden tools, knives, two baseballs bats and I big 4WD. Which is invaluable if Zombieland is any example.

And finally there is the location to consider, I happen to be in a good place for resources as there is a supermarket just up the road. I am in a coul de sac, so there's not alot of people around. And I have a pretty good vantage point for taking out zombies.
However I have no real defenses, the front of the house has two big windows, the fences are easily scalable and it's in a very open area. Which can be a pro or a con.

So it could go either way if I stay or move to a more secure location.
I think tall buildings are a good place, I doubt zombies remember how to use a lift.
Plus you can see what's going on down below.

So this is just the skeleton of my zombie plan. There are many more "what-ifs" and more minor details. You get the general idea.
There's also my plans for other such apocalyptic events as the robot uprising, last human on earth scenario, natural disasters and space threats.
You know, like meteors and the sun deciding it doesn't like us.
Not aliens, there's no way of knowing what they would actually be like and if they would even be a threat.

This is not evidence to commit me to an asylum. It's just paranoia combined with an over-active imagination.

[jowwarr]

C'mon Bamf, you know you're not supposed to drink the red cordial after
9pm....

[gav]

jowwarr, on Feb 10 2010, 06:49 AM, said:

C'mon Bamf, you know you're not supposed to drink the red cordial after
9pm....

hehehehehehehehehe nice

[Marcus]

You need to read World War Z and the Zombie Survival guide by Max Brooks

[arcticfox]

read EVERYTHING!



youll need a high vantage point, yes - the top floors of a high rise sounds good, non?

but even that has limitations of its own... best idea would to have an older style high secutity multi level gov building, with keys rather than relying on electronics no longer available to you.... and good 360 degree veiw and detached from other buildings, on an open area....

you should remove all outer fire escapes up to the 2nd level (have a rope ready for you to drop from, with a grapple to trow back up to go back home) and make all access points unpassable for several levels also. an external lift, say a windowcleaners style, will be needed to get supplies up.


it would be needing to be reasonably close to several locations of food and supply sources, but making sure access to them are over open areas so that you can see anything coming.

weapons would have to be of several types and many, in order to accomidate the needs of the moment, with an mindfull idea of efficiency, consumable projectile use and contamination risk. suitable anti contanimant and damage limiting atire should also be sourced.

other considerations should be placed on alternate modes of movement - fast cars now being of limited life span due to fuel and repair considerations - , cooking, waste disposal, water and food supply limitations and resource selflife and availability, energy limitations like firewood and fuel vs solar and wind energy harnessing resources. health and safety issues, escape planning, safe housing, and emergency relocating plans should also be covered.

... and this, all before deciding who and how other survivours are to featured in your plans - with the longer picture of contamination cleanup and repopulation aspects of the whole deal.

youll need skilled people with will power and tenacity - good looks go out the window if you want to survive, and you'll need to be prepared to follow whoever has the best ability to do so - forget leading it yourself, unless you are the best to do so.


in short, i'd put 5% on you being a survivour in a 1st world country........maybe a little higher in less developed locale, due to being less reliant on modern convenience....... those with adequet survival skills at the out skirts of access to whatever remaining rersources there are will do best

i'd like to think i'd do ok, but i doubt i'd last as long as i'd like....



..... not that i think about it much....

;)

[Oz Vulcan]

Well as long as I'm not stuck on a derelict Star Destroyer when it happens... :unsure:

[vishrant]

I train 20 friends in japanese sword once a week, my guess is that the zombies would not stand a chance!

Regards Vish

[Marcus]

When the Zombies finally attack the wepon of choice is the LOBO (Short for lobotomiser)
It is a sharpened shovel at one end for severing the zombies head from its body (swing like an axe) and a spiked end to peirce its skull to expose its brain, effectivly nutralize it.
(Google it)
It then can be used to dig the hole to dispose of the body.

[MrBugs]

Just grab the trusty old chainsaw, boomstick and the necranomicon and send them back to hell!
You want a little?
Huh
Do ya?

[MJ]

sorry to long to read so I have no idea whats its about but reading the replys are quite funny.

[arcticfox]

vishrant, on Feb 10 2010, 11:16 AM, said:

I train 20 friends in japanese sword once a week, my guess is that the zombies would not stand a chance!

Regards Vish

im moving to WA.... have sword, will train


- plus, i like the forests, south of Perth - very pretty

[VPier]

I've got the audio-book version of the Zombie Survival Guide, it's amusing to listen to, the reader has a bit of a dry sense of humour.

But anywho, I'm ready for a Zombie breakout.

Hell, I recommend putting your armour on, might protect you from a few initial bites haha

[Shiney]

I've played boxhead zombie and have some respectable scores.. I'm clearly ready!

[e-i]

I'd LOVE a Zombie breakout.... I'd be in killingfest heaven....

I'm not very good at differentiating between zombies & non zombies though.... so...... Kill everything I say......

B)

[Nostrum]

Yep, I was going to say the Zombie Survival Guide is a good read. ;)

I don't have to worry about family, as one sister lives in Broken Hill, which'd be the last damned place to be hit. And both my brothers are well versed in zombie apocalypses. :P One of which still lives with my parents. They also all drive 4WDs. Family solved.

I would invest in a house with two stories, or an apartment on at least the third floor.
If I owned the house, I'd also spring for a number of solar panels, so that when the main power dies necessary things can still run (cooking appliances, fridges, and even security monitors around the perimeter to scan for zombies before a supply run). I'd also have the power boxes stored in the basement so I can still get at them if the house isn't compromised. If not, far enough away from the house not to become a handy stepladder for excited zombies.

As far as weapons go, baseball bat, small battery operated chainsaws (lightweight, as opposed to industrial, and rechargeable through my handy solar power), and a shotgun. I daresay for necessary times, I would also have a gun with a silencer attatched.

ZombieLand brings up some good points. Every zombie guide says that zombies revert to only the most primitive functions. One of which, is running. We have to catch food somehow. So, cardio, and double tap.


I agree with ArcticFox about a secondary location. Never trust your first place not to become overrun, especially if you're in an area with a high population. A higher level of zombies will mean more damage and more risk. Once they start spreading across the country, then you're safer. Locate a new safezone, and visit it regularly. During the outbreak get to it whenever you do a supply run from your primary location and prepare too.

I super agree with Marcus. Lobos are freakin' awesome. Though it's not something you'll find in your local home hardware.
Lots of people choose bad weapons. You want something to swing and slice, not swing and stab. The last thing you want is for your pick-axe to snag on a rib when there are two zombies coming up behind you. That too, can make a chainsaw bad. Ever tried to cut through a tree stump and then had it jam halfway through?

And depending on what sort of zombie outbreak you believe in (some will kill anything, some will kill only humans), it's honestly worth investing in a horse. Learn how to ride it, and learn how to ride it well. It does tire, but it's easier to refuel a horse than it is a car, they can go across more types of terrain, and can be taken into a safe-house with you. They're fast, they're agile, and they have built in self defence.


But, it all comes down to the type of outbreak. Because there's no set scripture on zombies, it really all varies.

[Alcfalath]

Ive got my spot all nice and ready, at the first sign of infection there are about 100 of us ready and able to implement a plan... ;)

Essentially, there is a convenient location over here in Perth with about 4 fast food outlets, a Bunnings mega warehouse, a Midland Brick/another fence mob as well, a Hunting/Firearms/collector swords outlet, a machinery hire place (coates hire) and a few other businesses, all very damn close, as well as a Servo *or 2*.

The first action is to quarantine and secure the immediate area, and raid for supplies. Massive amounts of manpower will be involved by all members, involving trucking the bricks and fence/barbed/razor wire to the Bunnings complex, ajacent to the HJ's, Maccas and Servo...

Clearing out all the supplies from the weapons places, and all the vehicles and machinery from the hire places, the area needs to be fortified with brick walls and barbed wire fences. Fences currently at facility will be an outer perimeter with the walls built high enough to hold out anything but a full on assault. From there utilising the Furniture Spot/BedShed and other stores on the opposite corner, we will collect all the furniture spare and take it to the now clear warehouse and set up rudimentary accomodation.

Once the primary facility is secure, all efforts to secure the extra fuel and food supplies would become the top priority, including barricading the facilities and tunneling from the main complex with DIY machines from hire place.

Following securing extra resources and reinforcing the vehicles for possible encounters, an armed run would be made to collect more weaponry and supplies for an extended stay and fight...

The rest from there is basically it. Collect relatives if possible, friends if able, and anything that can be used as transport/fuel, food, weaponry, or survivability..

Also with a major hospital up the road, and many clinics around the area, once they are out of operation, raids would be sent to collect and refurbish fortress supplies. As well as raids to the 2 military bases in the immediate area, and others later down the track.... :D

[BAMF]

For some reason I just knew you would have a zombie plan, Matt.

[Alcfalath]

Many plans... I keep the Tomorrow When the War Began Book Series handy in case of foreign invasion too hehe ;)

Well... Foreign Military Invasion :D

[Nostrum]

Never trust fast food outlets to be a ready source of food.

Especially these days, they normally stock food to last no more than 2 days, most of that is frozen, and most of it requires food processors that can take an hour or more to heat up and cook.